Using Collaborative Problem Solving to enhance Pu
And how Pu sharpens Collaborative Problem Solving in return.
Collaborative Problem Solving (CPS), developed by psychologist Ross Greene, treats a recurring outburst or standoff, a kid melting down over homework, a partner going silent every Sunday night, as a sign that some specific expectation is currently unworkable for that person, and has the two people involved sit down together and name exactly what is getting in the way before agreeing on a solution neither one is imposing on the other. Pu, the Taoist idea of the uncarved block, works from something close to the opposite direction: it holds that most of a person's difficulty comes from artificial complications layered onto a naturally simple life, and the practice is to identify what got added, an extra rule, an unnecessary ambition, a habit borrowed from someone else's life, and strip it back out rather than solve around it. One diagnoses a specific unsolved problem before acting; the other assumes the problem is usually the accumulated complication itself and removes it. They rarely get placed side by side because one comes out of child psychology and the other out of a two-thousand-year-old text, but a CPS conversation that surfaces the real obstacle often reveals that the obstacle is exactly the kind of unnecessary addition Pu is built to strip away, and Pu's instinct to simplify works far better once you know precisely what you are simplifying.
What each one is actually for
Collaborative Problem Solving
Collaborative Problem Solving starts from a specific claim: a person who is melting down, stonewalling, or repeatedly failing to meet an expectation is not choosing to be difficult, they are missing a skill or facing a demand that currently exceeds what they can do, and the outburst is what that gap looks like from the outside. Instead of imposing a consequence or a fix, CPS has the two people sit down at a calm moment, not mid-conflict, and the person with the concern first genuinely tries to understand the other's side of the unsolved problem, asking and listening rather than assuming, before either states their own concern about it. Only once both concerns are actually on the table do they invent a solution together, one that has to address both sides or it will not hold. The method is slow and specific on purpose; it treats the vague sense that someone is being difficult as an unfinished diagnosis, not a character judgment, and refuses to move to a fix before the actual obstacle has a name.
Pu
Pu is the Taoist image of the uncarved block of wood, valued in its raw, unworked state precisely because nothing has been added to it or cut away from its natural form. Applied to a life or a habit, the practice starts from a different premise than most self-improvement: that struggle usually comes not from lacking something but from carrying too much, an extra rule you adopted because someone else's routine worked for them, an ambition borrowed rather than actually yours, a habit elaborated far past what its original purpose required. The move is not to solve the difficulty by adding a new system on top of the old one, it is to look at what has accumulated and deliberately strip pieces back out, returning the habit or the decision closer to its plainest, least effortful form. Practiced well, it produces something that runs with less friction not because a clever fix was found but because the artificial complication causing the friction is simply no longer there.
What you get out of pairing them
CPS gets you an obstacle with an actual name instead of a vague, recurring frustration you keep working around. Most unresolved conflicts, with a child, a partner, a coworker, stay unresolved because nobody has ever precisely stated what specifically is not working for whom; CPS forces that statement, and a named problem can be addressed in a way an unnamed feeling of friction cannot. Pu gets you something different: permission to remove a complication rather than manage it forever. Most self-improvement advice assumes the answer is a new habit, a new system, another layer, and Pu is the rare practice that asks whether the actual answer is fewer layers, which is a relief precisely because it is not more work. Put the two together and the appeal sharpens: CPS tells you exactly what the unworkable thing is, and Pu gives you a legitimate, non-defeatist way to respond to that finding by removing it rather than assuming you must now build a new system to manage around it.
What Collaborative Problem Solving rests on
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Externalizing makes pattern visible
randomised trials
Putting an internal pattern into an external, structured form makes it visible and available for examination instead of remaining implicit and merely enacted.
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Parts have positive intent
clinical practice
A behavior that looks like misbehavior is usually a mistaken strategy aimed at meeting a legitimate underlying need rather than an expression of badness itself.
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Collaborative solution generation increases buy in
observational studies
Jointly generating a solution with the person who has the problem produces more durable follow-through than an imposed solution.
What Pu rests on
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Removing additions reveals natural function
practitioner report
Stripping away artificial additions to a habit or decision returns it to a simpler more sustainable form closer to its natural function.
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Simplicity reduces decision load
plausible mechanism
Fewer self-imposed rules and complications lower the ongoing cognitive load required to maintain a behavior.
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Unforced behavior persists longer than effortful striving
practitioner report
Behavior that flows from a simplified natural state persists with less ongoing effort than behavior maintained through continuous striving.
Where they actually meet
The two methods look like they are pulling in opposite directions, one adds a whole conversation and a negotiated solution, the other subtracts, but look at what each is actually against. CPS refuses to accept the first available explanation for a behavior, the lazy "they're just being difficult" story, and insists on finding the real, specific thing underneath it. Pu refuses to accept the first available explanation for a struggle too, the assumption that you simply need more discipline or a better system, and insists on checking whether something unnecessary was added that could just as easily come back out. Neither one takes the surface account at face value. CPS digs down to find the true obstacle before acting on it; Pu looks at what has piled on top of something originally simple before assuming a new layer is the fix. Both are a refusal to solve the wrong problem.
The principle underneath both
Struggle that looks like it needs a new solution often actually needs a more accurate diagnosis first, and once the diagnosis is accurate, the right response is frequently to remove something rather than add something. The obstacle rarely announces itself; both practices exist because the first, easiest story about why something isn't working, laziness, lack of discipline, being difficult on purpose, is usually wrong, and getting underneath it changes what looks like the obvious next move.
What that makes the real goal
Named plainly, what both are chasing is an accurate account of what is actually causing the friction, held long enough that you stop treating the symptom and address the real thing. CPS gets there by conversation, surfacing each side's unstated concern until the true unsolved problem is on the table. Pu gets there by subtraction, testing which pieces of a habit or a life are load-bearing and which were added without ever being examined. Neither the clinical world CPS comes from nor the philosophical tradition Pu comes from owns that objective; it is just what has to happen before you can respond to a real problem instead of an assumed one.
Other practices that serve the same goal
The Five Whys, a root-cause technique from manufacturing and process engineering, pursues the identical goal by a third route: repeatedly asking why a problem occurred, each answer prompting the next why, until the questioning reaches a cause specific enough to actually fix rather than a vague, generic one; it has widespread use in quality-improvement settings though its evidence is mostly practitioner-reported rather than randomized. Minimalism as a deliberate practice, distinct from Pu's philosophical roots, pursues the subtraction side of the same objective directly, having a person remove possessions or commitments one at a time and observe what changes, with modest observational support for reduced stress from decision overload. Motivational Interviewing's exploration of ambivalence, used in addiction and health-behavior counseling, pursues the diagnosis side for a different material again, a person's own mixed feelings, with a substantial randomized-trial base behind it. None of these three built their tool with the other two in mind; each field independently found that an accurate account of the real obstacle, arrived at before acting, outperforms acting on the first assumption.
A tradition that already does this
Stoic philosophy, centuries before either modern method, already ran something close to this same two-step. Its practice of examining a disturbance to find the judgment underneath it, the specific belief causing the distress rather than the event itself, functions like a plainer-language ancestor of CPS's insistence on finding the real unsolved problem. Its parallel discipline of voluntarily doing without comforts, to test which ones you actually need versus which you have simply become dependent on, functions like Pu's subtraction move applied to a different tradition's vocabulary. Neither Stoicism nor Taoism borrowed from the other, and neither anticipated a twentieth-century child psychologist's clinical method, but the same two-part shape, diagnose accurately, then remove rather than pile on, shows up independently in both.
Using Collaborative Problem Solving to enhance Pu
Pu's weakness in practice is that "strip it back to what's essential" is easy to agree with and genuinely hard to execute, because most people cannot tell which parts of a habit are the artificial addition and which parts are load-bearing without doing real diagnostic work first, and guessing wrong means cutting something that mattered. Borrow CPS's structure to do that diagnosis before you cut anything. Sit down, alone or with someone who knows the habit well, and ask the CPS question of the habit itself: what specifically is this piece doing, and for whom, before you decide to remove it. Take an overloaded morning routine, six separate steps accumulated from six different books and podcasts, and instead of cutting by instinct, name what each step was actually solving for when it was added, energy, focus, guilt-avoidance, and only then ask which of those problems still exists and which was solved once and is now being re-solved daily out of habit. What survives that conversation is a genuinely leaner version, not just a shorter one; what gets removed is removed because its original job is already done, not because it happened to be the fifth item on the list.
Using Pu to enhance Collaborative Problem Solving
CPS is thorough by design, and that thoroughness has a real cost: naming a concern, hearing the other side's concern, and negotiating a solution together takes real time and real emotional effort, which means people sometimes quietly stop doing it, not because it fails but because it feels like too much machinery for a problem that turns out to be small. Pu's instinct toward the plainest available version is a useful check on that drift. Before running a full CPS conversation, ask the Pu question first: has something unnecessary been added here that, if simply removed, would make the actual conversation shorter or unneeded altogether. A recurring argument about a chore chart might dissolve not because the two people finally negotiate the perfect division of labor but because the chart itself, an addition neither person actually wanted, turns out to be the artificial complication, and removing it removes the standoff. Not every unsolved problem needs the full collaborative process; some of them need the process shortened by first checking whether the friction is coming from something extra that was never actually necessary.
Sunday night, staring at a chore chart nobody follows
It's Sunday night, and the two of you are having the same low-grade argument you've had for a month about who did the dishes more this week, both pointing at a chore chart taped to the fridge that neither of you has actually followed since the second week you made it. Before defaulting to yet another negotiation over who owes what, you try the CPS move first: you ask, genuinely, what makes the chart hard to stick to, rather than assuming laziness. Your partner says the chart assumes a fixed weekly schedule and their actual week never looks the same twice, so they end up either ignoring it or resenting it. That's the real obstacle, named. Now the Pu question: does the chart need to be fixed, or does it need to not exist. You look at it together and realize the chart itself, the rigid grid, is the artificial addition; what you actually need is something closer to the block before it was carved into seven identical days, an agreement to trade off by feel and check in on Sundays rather than a schedule imposed on a week that never behaves like one. You take the chart down. The argument, it turns out, needed less structure, not more.
When this is worth reaching for
A recurring friction — a habit, a chore, a routine — has already survived one or two attempts at fixing it, and the fix keeps not sticking. That pattern usually means one of two things: either the real obstacle was never actually named, or an artificial complication got layered onto something that used to be simple. The first time a problem shows up, before there's any evidence of which kind it is, there's no diagnosis to make yet.
Where this does not apply
Do not reach for Pu's subtraction instinct when the difficulty is a genuine skill deficit rather than an artificial addition, a person who has never been taught how to have a hard conversation is not carrying excess complexity that can be stripped away, they are missing something that needs to be built, and CPS's collaborative-solution step, not simplification, is the right tool there. And do not run a full CPS conversation over something genuinely trivial, where to put the remote, whose turn for a small task, that would be better served by simply letting the smaller, less important habit go; treating every minor friction as an unsolved problem worth a structured negotiation is its own kind of unnecessary addition, the opposite failure from the one Pu is trying to prevent.
What the evidence does and does not support
Collaborative Problem Solving has a meaningful evidence base in the specific settings it was built for, oppositional behavior in children and adolescents, with studies showing reduced conflict and fewer behavioral incidents compared to reward-and-punishment approaches, though most of that evidence is clinical and observational rather than large randomized trials. Pu carries essentially none of that kind of evidence in its own right; it is a philosophical stance from a two-thousand-year-old tradition, not a testable protocol, and its usefulness here rests on how well the metaphor of subtraction maps onto a given situation rather than on any measured outcome. Applying CPS's diagnostic conversation to a habit rather than a child's behavior, or applying Pu's subtraction instinct inside a structured negotiation, has not been studied in any form; the pairing offered here is an argument about shared shape between a clinical method and a philosophical one, not a report of anyone testing it.
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The two practices on their own
Other pairings with these practices
- 168 Hours Time Audit and Pu (Taoist Simplicity / Uncarved Block)
A time log shows you where the hours actually went. Pu asks a different question: which of those hours are artificial additions worth cutting outright.
- 90-Second Rule and Pu (Taoist Simplicity / Uncarved Block)
A feeling fades in about ninety seconds if you add no story. Taoist simplicity asks what other stories you have piled on top of it.
- Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and Pu (Taoist Simplicity / Uncarved Block)
ACT strips excess story from a thought. Pu strips excess rules from a habit. Same move, different material — and where the comparison actually breaks down.
- Action Planning (Implementation Intentions) and Pu (Taoist Simplicity / Uncarved Block)
One adds a rule to force follow-through; the other removes rules. Here is the honest, specific way they can still work in sequence.
- Attention Management and Pu (Taoist Simplicity / Uncarved Block)
A productivity system can grow so elaborate that running it competes with the work. Attention management meets an old Taoist caution against over-building.
- Behavior Design (Environment Design) and Pu (Taoist Simplicity / Uncarved Block)
A habit system with too many rules becomes its own obstacle. The Taoist idea of pu, stripping the unnecessary away, can prune it back to what works.
- Calm Company Design and Pu (Taoist Simplicity / Uncarved Block)
One strips manufactured urgency out of a company, the other strips manufactured extras out of a life — the same move, two different scales.
- Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Pu (Taoist Simplicity / Uncarved Block)
A distorted belief and an unnecessary rule are the same problem: something added on top of a simpler, working state. Where testing meets stripping.
- Collaborative Problem Solving and 168 Hours Time Audit
A time log gives a CPS conversation actual evidence instead of impressions. Where the two fit, and where a log turns into surveillance instead.
- Collaborative Problem Solving and 25/5 Rule (Two-List Strategy)
A method for finding a child's hidden reason and a method for ruthlessly cutting a goal list share one move: naming what you're actually solving for.
- Collaborative Problem Solving and 5-4-3-2-1 Grounding
A child mid-meltdown can't do Plan B's give-and-take. 5-4-3-2-1 grounding may be the missing step that gets them there first.
- Collaborative Problem Solving and 90-Second Rule
A joint diagnosis can't happen while someone's still flooded. One reading of why the 90-second wait has to come before Collaborative Problem Solving.
The principles underneath both
- externalizing makes pattern visible
Putting an internal pattern into an external, structured form makes it visible and available for examination instead of remaining implicit and merely enacted. Shared by 47 practices in the corpus — here in 168 Hours Time Audit.
- parts have positive intent
A behavior that looks like misbehavior is usually a mistaken strategy aimed at meeting a legitimate underlying need rather than an expression of badness itself. Shared by 3 practices in the corpus — here in Internal Family Systems (IFS).